This week on Ring of Fire, Emma Vigeland talks to Branko Marcetic, a Jacobin staff writer and the author of Yesterday's Man: The Case Against Joe Biden, about the false choice between “fighting a pandemic” vs “saving the economy.”

And Heather “Digby” Parton will help Sam wrap up this year’s show as they discuss the Trump Presidency and the characters that enabled him for the past 4 years.