Ring of Fire is a podcast hosted by Sam Seder and Emma Vigeland that began as a radio show in 2004 by Mike Papantonio. The show focuses on exposing corporate fat cats, polluters and media spinmeisters.

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Episode 571: The False Choice Between Fighting the Pandemic vs Saving the Economy

This week on Ring of Fire, Emma Vigeland talks to Branko Marcetic, a Jacobin staff writer and the author of Yesterday's Man: The Case Against Joe Biden, about the false choice between “fighting a pandemic” vs “saving the economy.”

And Heather “Digby” Parton will help Sam wrap up this year’s show as they discuss the Trump Presidency and the characters that enabled him for the past 4 years.