In this episode Andy and Sean sit down with Phil A. Neel, author of 'Hinterland: America's New Landscape of Class and Conflict' to talk about his work and travels and how they helped him reconceptualize working class life in the United States and abroad. We discuss the particular geography of accumulation and exploitation that has created glittering global cities of commerce and finance, alongside impoverished and a dystopian far hinterland. We bring it up to the present with the political ramifications of this new landscape, how it reconfigures class struggle as seen in the Ferguson protests, last summer's insurrection and the waves of riots across the planet.

Outro: Eminem ft Rihanna - Love the Way you Lie

Buy the book: https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/H/bo28433484.html

Phil's article on the pandemic : https://brooklynrail.org/2020/07/field-notes/Crowned-Plague

Nihilist Communism by Monsieur Dupont: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/monsieur-dupont-nihilist-communism.pdf