I'm always talking about the importance of having other interests and diversions from the steady onslaught of news, politics and disinformation. For me, I find rewarding escapes in my painting and by listening to music. Today, we'll take a musical diversion with singer, multi-instrumentalist and all-around talented musician Ben Harper and producer Sheldon Gomberg. In a session taped Tuesday evening, we talk about everything from the music they're recording together to the Beatles "Get Back" documentary, to activism, skateboarding and lots more. It was treat for me. I hope you enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed speaking with Ben and Sheldon.